MaximuS.111
Senior Member
ukraine
russian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #1
Greetings!
I recently watched a movie and there was a story narrated in it, which goes like that:
"... I remember once when I was your... and I was coming back from some place... a movie or something... and I was on the subway... and there was a girl sitting in front of me..."
I know that the preposition 'on' is used with transport, so that's what we can see in a dialogue. But there are other prepositions that can be used like: in or by.
For example:
Where are you now? - I'm in the subway
I get to work by subway.
Could someone please give thorough explanation as to when use what preposition with transport.
Thanks in advance!
sound shift
Senior Member
Derby (central England)
English - England
- Feb 11, 2012
- #2
AmE "on the subway": "on the subway train" (because we say "on the train").
AmE "in the subway": I don't know if this is possible; we need the view of an AE speaker.
BrE "in the subway": In some sort of pedestrian underpass, possibly one that goes under a road.
"By" indicates means of transport: "by bus", "by car", "by train", etc.
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LilianaB
Banned
US New York
Lithuanian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #3
I think on the subway means on the train, whereas you would not usually say in the subway, in the subway station but on the subway, on the train. I go to work by subway, this is correct.
MaximuS.111
Senior Member
ukraine
russian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #4
sound shift, Liliana thanks for dropping by!
Now I think we can leave out 'by', because everything's pretty straightforward with it.
Where are you? - I'm on the subway/on the bus/on the car/on the plain headed to my office.
Am I right to preposition 'on' to all of those nouns?
Thanks!
sound shift
Senior Member
Derby (central England)
English - England
- Feb 11, 2012
- #5
Almost!
"On the subway", "on the bus" and "on the plane".
"In the car".
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LilianaB
Banned
US New York
Lithuanian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #6
Onboard a ship, in a boat, on a ferry.
MaximuS.111
Senior Member
ukraine
russian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #7
sound shift, now you what my concern is . It's 'in the car' and that's what I thought it would be
. Can you come up with any other examples where on is replaced by in when talking about transport?
LilianaB
Onboard a ship, in a boat, on a ferry.
so the same story with 'in a boat', right? I'm trying to figure out how 'in a boat' and 'in a car' are different from the others...
sound shift
Senior Member
Derby (central England)
English - England
- Feb 11, 2012
- #8
Hmmmm ...... (Thinks) ..... "In the cable-car". "On the cable-car" is dangerous and impossible for all except James Bond and people like that, because it means "on the outside" . I agree with what Liliana has just posted, except that I write "on board a ship" rather than "onboard a ship".
MaximuS.111
Senior Member
ukraine
russian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #9
Ok, thanks mates! I guess I'll just remember the pairs "preposition+noun" without tying them to any rule
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Best of luck!
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Parla
Member Emeritus
New York City
English - US
- Feb 11, 2012
- #10
Here in New York, we do use "in the subway" to mean within that underground system (in a station, or in a passageway between stations). If we're aboard a train, we say "on the subway".
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LilianaB
Banned
US New York
Lithuanian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #11
In a helicopter, I think. In a chopper, which is the same, I think. Onboard an aircraft.
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LilianaB
Banned
US New York
Lithuanian
- Feb 11, 2012
- #12
Yes, I know, Parla, we say in the subway meaning the subway station, but I was not sure whether this was really correct or people just make a shortcut from in the subway station. Could it be used in writing as well? The lawyer was in the subway when he was attacked by a man with a 15 inch knife.
ribran
Senior Member
Washington, DC
English - American
- Feb 11, 2012
- #13
I agree with Liliana (and Parla).
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Parla
Member Emeritus
New York City
English - US
- Feb 12, 2012
- #14
Yes, I know, Parla, we say in the subway meaning the subway station, but I was not sure whether this was really correct or people just make a shortcut from in the subway station. Could it be used in writing as well? The lawyer was in the subway when he was attacked by a man with a 15 inch knife.
Yes, although in a news report such as your example, probably more detail would be given, e.g., "on the platform in the ____ station waiting for the __ train". The headline would still be Lawyer Stabbed in Subway.
But in general, well, imagine this phone dialog:
A: I'm calling to let you know I've been delayed; I'll be a few minutes late.
B: What's all that background noise? Where are you?
A: I'm in the subway.
Actually, logically, "station" is unnecessary in any case, since "subway" literally means an underground passage; the entire system is a subway.
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LilianaB
Banned
US New York
Lithuanian
- Feb 12, 2012
- #15
Thank you. I thought in the subway may be sometimes unclear.
MaximuS.111
Senior Member
ukraine
russian
- Feb 12, 2012
- #16
Given the above posts can we infer that when a person refers to a means of transport, he uses the preposition 'on', like I'm on the subway meaning I'm using subway to get home.
But when he wants to indicate the exact place where he is he might use the preposition 'in' like I'm in the subway meaning I'm in the subway station.
Is this logic feasible?
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LilianaB
Banned
US New York
Lithuanian
- Feb 12, 2012
- #17
I am on the subway means I am on the subway train not in the subway station or any other place in the subway, simply on the train. Inside the train.
MaximuS.111
Senior Member
ukraine
russian
- Feb 12, 2012
- #18
LilianaB, thank you! So what preposition would you choose to tell somebody that you are somewhere (without indicating where exactly on the subway train or in the subway station) underground?
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LilianaB
Banned
US New York
Lithuanian
- Feb 12, 2012
- #19
Can you tell me what situation you have in mind. Do you want to meet somebody there? Do you want to tell them that it is noisy, for example where you are, and then you want to explain that you are in the subway( while talking on the phone) Do you want to let somebody know that you are on your way home? If you want to let somebody know that you are in the subway and you want to meet them somewhere, you have to tell them exactly where you are. If you want to let them know that you are on your way home you have to tell them I am on the subway, but if you are just waiting for a train, you can tell them I am on the subway platform waiting for a train, or I am at the subway station waiting for a train.
MaximuS.111
Senior Member
ukraine
russian
- Feb 12, 2012
- #20
LilianaB, there's no any situation in my mind, I was just trying to figure out the rule about the matter . As it turns out, the preposition may vary depending on a particular situation.
If you want to let them know that you are on your way home you have to tell them I am on the subway, but if you are just waiting for a train, you can tell them I am on the subway platform waiting for a train, or I am at the subway station waiting for a train.
Thanks for that! Best of luck!
kentix
Senior Member
English - U.S.
- Aug 7, 2021
- #22
That would be "in", like a car. You get in cars and trucks and get on buses and planes and boats and trains.
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